Sunday, June 24, 2007 < < < <
Email from Norway
I am running an email I received from an "XXXXX" reader in Norway. It is devastating in its matter-of-factness.
Well, yes, the situation is worsening. Stepping up from 29 000 immigrants every year, in 2007 we will be getting a total of 35 000 immigrants from somalia, iran, iraq and afghanistan. The nations capital is already 50% muslim, and they ALL go there after entering Norway. Adding the 1.2 births per woman per year from muslim women, there will be 300 000+ muslims out of the then 480 000 inhabitants of that city.
Orders from Libya and Iran say that Oslo will be known as Medina at the latest in 2010, although I consider this a PR-stunt nevertheless it is their plan.
From Israel the hordes clawing at the walls of Jerusalem proclaim cheerfully that next year there will be no more Israel, and I know Israel shrugs this off as do I, and will mount a strike during the summer against all of its enemies in the middle east. This will make the muslims worldwide go into a frenzy, attacking everyone around them.
We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.
Before, I thought about emigrating to Britain, Israel, USA, South Africa, etc. for taxes and politics, but instead (although I believe we are the very last generation on earth before the return of God) I will stay and fight for the right to this country and indeed the entire peninsula, for the God-fearing people, just in case this isn't the end of the world after all. Doesn't hurt to have a backup plan.
It's far from impossible to achieve, after all my people has done it every time before, in feats that match the ancient greek, hebrew and british "legends".
Oslo and the southeast may fall easily, but there are other lines than "state"-borders drawn across this country since long before there was even a single muslim in the world, and we have held them this long, against everyone else too. We are entering a new golden age for my people, and those of a handful other countrys, but only through struggle.
Miluimnik said...
What a wonderful letter. We've come to expect this sort of exceptional correspondence an the pages of Atlas...but I remain in awe of your readership and their commitment to freedom and liberty nonetheless.
Sam Adams (nice beer too!) said;
If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Your Norwegian friend understands Adams better than most so called "Americas".
christians and jews:
to arms!! to arms!!
if our leaders betray us, and surely norwegian leaders betray their citizens, then we have no one left to betray us, except our selves and our own cowardice.
are we to slip into an eternal dark ages without a fight?
so, i say.--
to arms!! to arms!!
the fight has started, and we must respond.
john jay
As we see by that Norwegian's letter the government of Norway has committed hari-cari and thrown it's people into a no win situation, but for what ? What did the ignorant government have to gain by such treason ?
I only hope that in the event civil war breaks out there or any other democracy, that the US still has enough moral clarity to supply the native populations with guns and ammunition if not troops.
I fear, however that the world is in such a general state of instability that it may become every man for himself. Even here in the USA, people speak of civil war to overthrow leftism and political correctness and the general loss of individual rights to regulations and special interests.
How much further can we go down this road ? How much more crap before critical mass is reached. In some parts of Europe, the time is close. In Israel and Lebanon, the time is close. Along the border between the USA and Mexico, the time is close. Pakistan and India, and several places in Africa and the loud ticking bomb in Iran all point to more war soon........ The time is close.
There's an Old Testament blood-bath comin'.
Question remains: Are there enough Norsemen that will hear the Wyking song pulse in their veins?
Or will they rely on their Norske and EU's eunuch 'leadership'?
Season after season Norway (and Sweden) are conceding whole neighborhoods populated by 'immigrants' as no-go zones. Police and EMS won't respond there. It's the friggin' death-cry of civilization when the barbarians can intimidate in this manner.
So...yes. A very nice letter to you, Pam, from a Norwegian Atlasite (Atlasonian?). Unfortunately, he or she could be prosecuted under hate-speech laws for writing or posting in Norway what you have passed on to us.
yes turn, which is why I ran it anonymously
I always find it interesting that Duncan and his ilk avoid these types of posts...
Hmmm, I wonder why?
John Jay says: "are we to slip into an eternal dark ages without a fight?"
That IS the question exactly...
A wonderful letter I agree!
Some facts (just naturally) exaggerated though. Not half the population in Oslo is muslims. About 22 percent of the population is immmigrants. Foreign born people mostly immigrated since early 90th (children not counted) and to 90 percent from the countries mentioned in the letter. So some less than 20 percent of Oslo citizen should be muslims. And that's many! In Malmoe Sweden every 25 percent are muslims, and there's real tension! (No more pork, probably only halal, in many public schools is only one consequence.)
What to come? Half the population is certainly muslims within 20-40 years in cities as Malmoe and Oslo I think. Due to a continued immigration and an increase emigration of the native population, easily within 20 years!
Only figures. I can see how the problem hugely increases long before the 50 percent of the population!
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Why this? In Europe there is the social democrat left against the "bourgeois" liberals and conservatives (I'm a conservative), but the "liberal right" isn't yet realize the problem, and not the too saintly christian conservatives either... The problem is created by "the political class" and a constant policy for large scale immigration.
I think I'll join the radical immigration party that is backtalked as racists. All other political parties continues to omit sound arguments against the ongoing mass immigration as racism. It sucks. :-I Both the Swedish and British conservative party is now quite liberal... Really BAD!!!!!!!
The only country in Europe with any anatomical spheres is Putin's Russia. It may be that his plans to Finlandise Europe through his oil and gas reserves will be your salvation. Holy cow but History has a sense of humor.
IGout: What is "anatomical sphere"? (I really hope it's sn't a race thing!!) Russia, btw, has also a, so to say, large scale muslim issue, if you didn't know...
But to start an armed war...? No, but fight a political war against immigration and a steady decline by the numbers of ppl from a nonhuman culture with the goal to change our culture.
(Rightwing liberalism in Europe = free nonregulated immigration is without problems if only the labour market is liberal. Well, liberal labour markets are good but the conclusion is stupid!)
magnus andersson:
first point. an "anatomical sphere" is a teste. two anatomical spheres" constitutes one "ugly sack." sometimes referred to as cajones or juevos, more or less spanish/mexican for "eggs."
second point. "but to start an armed war ...? No, ..." the answer, my friend, is actually "yes," if you want them to leave.
you are invaded, as surely as was england when you ancestors marched ashore in northern england or scotland or on the river banks of paris, wielding trade goods in one hand and swords in the other.
they will not go home, unless your force them to go home, at the point of a bayonet. they have not left lebanon, and only one things keeps them from israel.
you have hit the nail square on the head, as your culture faces a steady decline from the influence of a nonhuman culture, seeking to throw over your culture and seize your lands, your property, and your womenfolk.
you must fight, magnus, or they will take it from you without a fight, and that will be your legacy.
john jay
john daly, I think You are the guy that talks and think u r clever (sic!). You are doing the jadajdada anti-PC talk without any sence. I think it's important to talk right stuff. Of course I figth, but within the law (eh, maybe not accordning to blasphemy laws).
What I sreot yesterday but didn't sent is here below. I think there is time for armed war against Islam when there is a situation that makes an armed war right. It's not yet the situation in Scandinavia, but in soutehrn Thailand it is (it also has been in Balkan etc...). The number of- and influence from muslims is still not enough for an armed war in Scandinavia, but if not the politics change I think we may reach that point in the future. I don't know when. We may not know before it happens. We'll have enclaves and a balkanization, I think, and that must be avoided by a non armed fight. An armed fight now is insane and to destroy all nessecary confidence and effort of warnings and work for different immigration politics. Well this was what I wrote before; it may be bad langage and bad written in general, but... Your argument was rethorical bullsh*t, and read here below why. (It's btw not acceptable either to tell someone to fight an armed war -- to kill -- muslims in the west, and I explain what I think about that too):
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john: So what GIout said was actually "The only country in Europe with any ["eggs"] So is Putin's Russia ... will be your salvation."
I'm not sure I understand the word in this context. I guess that it was mentioned without any idea of the political situation. Russia is a real mess, not the hope for Europe (SIC!)! The situation is that western Europe have about 5 percent muslims and southern and parts of estern Europe a "below low" birthrate. Russia has a "below low" birtrate *and* 15 percent muslims -- more than twice as many as in western Europe. (Was GIout without a clue about Russia, or?)
(Eastern Europe has low birthrates but often very few muslims. Sweden and Norway has probably the highest immigration rate in Europe now. The emigration rate in Sweden has reached a high rate of the 19th century starvation emigration, but now the educated leave.)
You suggest me to go out on the street shooting and think that will do some good? I can't take your suggestion of an armed fight seriously, that you must understand! It seems you just talk a lot of bullsh*t, and I definitely don't need any advice from you, stupid! But our society shall if nessecary use armed force to deport the radical muslims (as we stop futher muslim immigration), but that's a police issue.
The alternativ to be a lunetic criminal fighting with arms is to fight the democracy way. Right? (You have to be brave to fight the democracy way too!) It's much against lots of our societal institutions, but we have to be crystal clear in ou rcritics against the blindness within these as well as in the liberal discourse. A rational ground needed to achieve change. (Your suggestion of armed force... I know that problem and the legitimacy of the armed restistance movement on the mexican border, but here in europe we have nothing similar. Immigrants enter our nations in aeroplanes you see... Do you suggests us to insanely shoot immigrants walking out of planes? Eh? The immigration politics better change, or? What do you say, stupid talker?)
If anti-immigration parties are more successful in Europe things can change. In France they now deport radical muslims, but a completely turn around in the politics I think we need to have.
Do you yourself have a gun to shoot politicians and/or immigrants, or what do you really refer to, john jay? Or are you an "anti-PC nut case" just "talking war" without guts?
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Some more answer: The comparison with the vikings in Scotland and England. They brought important and appreciated changes to these areas too! E.g. the Irish people really likes Scandinavians and the its influence. The problem with your argument is also that it's not equal to the problems of our time and therefor not valid. There was medieval laws in the medieval society you know...; warfare was pretty much a normal state, and sometimes villages was burnt and sometimes there was more friendship and trade. Lots of normal things today was stricly forbidden. Violent revenge was sometimes legal as it isn't today, and there was what we can call "Semi-sharia laws" and, yes, if one took a foreign woman it was a serious crime -- also *to be* a foreign man from the neighbour village could be a crime, and warfare could start if many neighbour village ppl entered ;) Okey comparison in the modern society you think?
We have also even larger scale invasion in modern time. Betsen 30 and 50 percent (I think) of the Baltic countries Latvia and Lithuania are today Russian people caused by communist conducted migration the late 20th century, but these countries and societies don't disappear! So it's about cultural distance, which isn't always about ethnical distance (e.g. Ayaan Hirsi Ali). But if we shall save our culture from islam I don't prefer the go-postal-way. It's like a "Shining suggestion" if you know what I mean; *lol*.
The problem we have is that no one even try the political way. People listen to the PC jadajada without awareness from politicians and don't dare to oppose it. The way to resist isn't to go postal as a Timothy McVeigh but to argue against indifferent and/or blind politicians and in that way be their pain in ass... Maybe join some democratic anti immigration party too.
Since not many dare to speak out in Europe I guess that some percents of those who do speaks about it are nazis, which's a pity. What about you, pro-armed-war john jay? ;) Are you just a decent mexican border defence rightwing man, or? The problem is the fear of speaking out, the fear (in the intellectual climate a rational one) to confront the politics. But with no political opposition there is no political change! If this culture of fear is broken I believe things can change. E.g almost non regulated mass immigration can be stopped, radicals be deported and the defence of our culture become an important issue in the society!
Oslo has 22 percent immigrants, not 50 percent. Still the long term muslim influence, umma project -- the jihad (to be offended and cry)-- and lack of awareness by our politicians is a huge problem. But to shoot immigrants ...or politicians? You're serious?! Nazi? John Jay, the Norwegian here exaggerated the scale of up to date immigration I guess by a factor of about 3, but you shall know better and are a more than a nut suggesting to kill people (in Oslo). Too weird to think about but wlil for sure garantee the exclusion of anyone who try to politically oppose the immigration and presence of radical islam.
If you can't recognize a non violent road between the Timothy McVeigh resistance and total inactivity I can't disuss with you. I believe in something in between get raped and rape... in the sphere of politics and democracy. At least I know what that is.
We must make people aware of what's happen and show them how we must act. That's to fight! If we got enclaves we might have real war and have to pick up arms, but to nail the head now is to succeed in changing politics. Got it?
Who is - " magnus andersson " ?